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The Hunslets are Branchlines Kits. 

Left; No.1T a 2-6-0-Hunslet (477) of 1889.  It had a tractive effort of 9918lbs at 85% and was sadly scrapped in 1953 with its sister No.2T.  It was involved in the Camp disaster in 1893 when the train 'ran away' down the gradient (1 in 29) towards the 3 chain radius curve leading onto the bridge there.  It hit the curve at about 40m.p.h and went flying into the river (p16 The Dingle Train by Rowlands & McGrath pub. Plateway Press).  As a result this loco lost the sandbox on top of the boiler just behind the chimney - visible on No.2T. I think I got the paintwork wrong as it seems a bit light - a bit of work to mucky it up will be needed. The firebox has been enlarged to incorporate the new boiler fitted in the early 1900s.

Middle left two;  No.2T (478) in more natural surroundings and natural light for a change! Apart from minor derailments she was never involved in a major accident. The loco was built based on a photograph in Ivo Peters 'The Narrow Gauge of Yesteryear' (pic. No 36) and is in 1950's condition, out of period for the layout, but originally we had plans on an overgrown last days look.  Then we thought it would be better to have some passenger stock to add variety.  As passenger services ended in 1939, so the 1930's version prevailed! The loco was already built however and I'm not changing it!  

Right; Hunslet 3T.  Works 479 following on from the other two locos.  These three were bought together and were used in the construction of the line.  She was sent to the C&L in 1939 on cessation of the passenger services and was finally cut up in 1959 along with the T&D Kerr Stuart 4T.  I will try and get a better picture of her.

Far right;  No.6T in close up from another picture which is not perfect but OK! Hunslet No. 677, she was built in 1898 and scrapped in 1960 after going to the West Clare in 1953 and the Cavan and Leitrim in 1957.  She and No.8T had a slightly higher tractive effort then the earlier three Hunslets of 10626lbs at 85% due to extra tubes in the boiler.  This loco was involved in several incidents, (she featured in more Great Southern Railway, GSR, accident reports than all the other T&D loco's together!) the worst being when she came off on the approach to Lispole viaduct and ended up halfway down the bank ( If you look at the picture at the bottom of the 'Dingle' page -right- you will see it in the distance or click here).   Others accidents included, hitting a car on the first day of GSR ownership of the line, and running down a travelling circus, putting the Cork and Muskerry steam roller incident (re-enacted by 'Sir Handel' in 'Gallant Old Engine' by Rev. Awdry, who even paraphrased some of the official report) to shame! 

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No 5T - construction in pictures

Above left; a nice shiny loco with Patrick and Michael proud of their new steed!  Centre; almost completed, just the weathering to go, staff to man it and some coal up top.  Right;  The real thing on the turntable at Dingle 1934.  

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Left;  Coach No. 10T with 6T alongside (again Branchlines kits).  With all T&D coaches the numbering should be gold/yellow with a black background I think.  There are also no GSR crests.  If anyone knows where I could get some.....  No.s 10T and 6T were built in 1891 and 1890 respectively.  They were both 27ft long and made by the Bristol Carriage and Wagon Co.  Amazingly both still survive (see p 109 The Dingle Train by Rowlands & McGrath about No 10) and is being restored though at Dromod  6T (see p 137) was converted to a railcar trailer whilst at the West Clare and subsequently sold to Bord na Mona.  It still survives at Dromod. Most coaches went to the West Clare apart from some of the brake's which were converted to brake / cattle trucks in the 1940's!  Middle;  No.14T (see p 70 The Tralee and Dingle Railway by D. Rowland, pub. Bradford Barton) was also built by 'Bristol' but was a 30ft brake 3rd. It also went to the West Clare and was scrapped there.  This is a Worsley Works 'kit' - in the sense that you are provided with excellent etches for the sides but have to do the rest yourself - labelled 'a scratch builders aid'.  Right;  No.18T built by Midland Carriage and Wagon Co. in 1907.  It was 30ft long and a composite coach with a smoking compartment in the middle (see p105 The Dingle Train by Rowlands & McGrath p112 for drawing as running on C&L, or p72/3 The Tralee and Dingle Railway by D. Rowland, pub. Bradford Barton)  Again, 18 still survives, this time in the USA though may well be going back to Ireland soon.  Far right;  Brake coach 13T built in 1898 by Bristol C&W, it was the only 1st/3rd composite brake.  It is the only Bristol to have plain sides rather than the usual matchboard ones - even the Midlands had these. 

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Left;  No.42T was one of three bogie vans that ran on the T&D.  It was built by the company in 1904 and by the 1950's was in use as a store in Tralee yard.  It was different in the respect that it had a 'triangular' roof rather than a curve.  There is a drawing on p117 The Dingle Train by Rowlands & McGrath although this is as built.  It was later modified see p115.  The model was scratch built by myself. The bogies are awful but it now has (along with the other bogie freight stock 'proper' bar frame bogies). The other van No.3T is a modified 'Dundas' kit, with the open slats at the top (see p 116 The Dingle Train by Rowlands & McGrath).  The three variations of this kit are good and all pretty accurate (not sure about the roof profile of the butter van) - I think one of their best kits.  Centre; No.58T built by Pickering's of Yorkshire in 1904.  There were 10 of these wagons purchased with several variations amongst them.  A few had two uprights like that modelled, others had one!  The Tralee and Dingle Railway by D. Rowland, pub. Bradford Barton p24 shows both kinds in one train.  Whether some got damaged and then repaired at Tralee or were complete rebuilds of 'crashed' wagons we will probably never know! This model is scratchbuilt and not without some difficulty as both inside and out had to be detailed!  To it's right is Bristol van No.14T.  Built in 1890 it had shutters which could be opened for cattle use.  This convertibility was quite a common feature of Irish narrow gauge wagons.  Right;  So I finally got round to purchasing one of the few remaining kits to build myself and yes, the strapping is a pain.  However, more of a concern are the ends which on examination of photographs aren't quite right.  I scratchbuilt the ends on this GSR version and added several details to the doors. I also replaced the original chassis with a Parkside Dundas Bristol one. This has lifted the wagon slightly - the few photographs that exist seem to show the original as taller when compared to the cattle vans.  To compound this I have used 9mm diameter wheels instead of the 8mm ones that should be there.  An end view of the horse box and scratchbuilt open 45T on a modified Parkside chassis.  Each of the open wagons seems to be different - this one has T angle metal bars either side of the drop down door, whereas 21T has plain straps!  Extreme right; The open wagon No.21T is scratch built from drawings though when I look at it I am convinced it is slightly too narrow (p75 The Tralee and Dingle Railway by D. Rowland, pub. Bradford Barton), a similar wagon, on p122 The Dingle Train it looks about right. There is now an open available from Worsley Works which is nearer the mark.   17T 'the butter van' of which there was only one was built in 1890 by Bristol.  It was converted in Tralee with louvred vents to maintain a cool environment for butter traffic (see p 77 The Tralee and Dingle Railway by D. Rowland, pub. Bradford Barton).  

Midland wagon 76T at Blennerville - note flush wagon doors, the wooden framed chassis and axle boxes behind (not on) the frames, as well as the three way V hanger  !

The pictures below were taken at Hazel Grove exhibition on Paul Titmuss's Annascaul layout.  Below left; now improved even further ... the Midland's chassis have been modified and I'm getting happier (until I find another flaw) with the final effect especially now they have the correct transfer from Peter Blackham .  Either side of the two Midland wagons are scratch built Bristol cattle wagons; to the left one of the few iron framed (scratch built) chassis varieties - the other three I built (only the one on the right actually visible) are all wooden framed ones with Parkside chassis.  Centre; a closed look at the Midlands.  Right; scratch built bogie van 39T.  The bogies are also made of plasticard, though I have a cunning plan to improve on them.  This van is very elusive and there are only part glimpses of it in photographs .. then I came across a picture (Narrow Gauge Rolling Stock by Desmond Coakham - Ian Allan) of it stuck in Tralee yard and the model was born.  It was constructed by the Bristol Carriage and Wagon Co. on a 'steel' chassis which added to the interest and makes a change to the usual wooden ones.  Far right;  scratch built Bristol wagon.  These were the only T&D wagons to have door hooks and yes, if you look carefully, there is a hole to attach the hook - if only the doors would open!  Although the body is scratch built the chassis is a slightly extended Parkside Dundas as the cattle wagons are a bit longer than the vans!  I have made three of these as a batch lot, though then added another, the steel framed chassis version as seen to the left of the picture on the left.

And finally (until the next build at least), three cattle wagons.  Left; Bristol built van no.3.  Well erm ... except that the location of the headstocks is all wrong with end framing on the outside of them and although it looks like a Bristol body with a couple of planks taken out, it's much taller - count the planks.  Because it was different I had to make a model of it!!  Centre; the Bristol (standard?) cattle van as mentioned above. Right; heavily modified Midland wagon - now looking much like the real picture above! Far right; On the left is converted bogie brake van 5T.  This is a scratch built affair on a slightly modified branchlines chassis.  It is possible to imagine what the original coach looked like from this. Next is the least interesting side of wagon 19T.  It has one of the doors missing on the other side.  Just a novelty and made to reflect the stock's life in the 1950s. The comes and Oldbury wagon sent from the Cork and Muskerry when that line closed.  At the far end is that bogie flat.  Both of the right hand two wagons can be seen in the Plateway book and the Bradford Barton one.

Above; scratchbuilt two plank open (ballast wagon) and bogie bolster truck.  The latter has only been 'seen' vaguely in a photo in use, but has appeared several times out of use stuck at the end of the 'dead' siding at Tralee.  Thought it was about time to resurrect it.  It is good to show the public that the T&D had a bit of variety in their stock as well as cattle vans.  The 'working' 1T is at the front of the train.  I found a picture showing the back of the cab where the fireman had hung his coat out of the rear window and thought that was a nice idea! 

The majority of the closed vans were built by 'Bristol', around the 1890's, the others were built by the Midland Carriage and Wagon Co. in 1907.  Such was the variation on wagons that it is fair to say there is no 'standard' of any type.  I thought I had explained away all the variations until I saw a variety of covered vans on p 12 The Dingle Train. I presume the bigger ones are the Midland ones, with what appear to be metal frames and the more usual brake 'V' hangers!  If you think you are getting clever at this, why not try to explain why the picture on p 121 shows a smaller 'van' ( with longer upright stanchions, below the main body, like the bigger one in the background on p12!) than the 'standard' variation with ventilators for cattle to its right, implying at least three variations of a 'standard'.  See what I mean?  We could start on the Hurst Nelson and Pickering cattle wagons but there were even more variations of them, the ongoing policy of the railway being to make do and mend - a researchers nightmare!! 

 

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